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Do we use the new rules?
Yes,we should use the new rules (with or without the new terminology)
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 33% [ 1 ]
Maybe, I want to try out the new rules for a while first
33%
 33% [ 1 ]
No, we should continue with the old rules, even if they render some new cards unplayable
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I don't care, the new rules aren't that different from the old ones
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I never turn up, so why does my opinion matter?
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 0% [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 3
 

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PostSubject: Rule Change Poll   Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:18 pm

I think we should keep the current rule set, but that depends on how you guys want to play.

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~~Recreated poll, with new options. Please keep in mind that this discussion is about the rules, not the new terminology. There's nothing stopping us from still using the words resolve, in play, and removed from game.

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:42 pm

I'm not going to make a decision until after the prerelease, where I'll experience the new rules and will be in a position to judge which is better.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:10 am

I think we should adopt the Rules (they make sense)...
But reject the Teminology (as PC crap.)
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:45 am

these are both very reasonable proposals and make a lot of sense but also complicate things, what i'd do is adapt the terminology to the old rules and forget it, and just use the cards as they should be. which means that i don't want to use the new rules, my mind might change after the pre-release but until then i say hell no.


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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:44 am

I don't think anyone should be allowed to vote until after the prerelease, because we haven't actually experienced the new rules yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:51 am

yes but
it took me long enuf to learn the basic
and i still make mistakes
this new rules will bring in more pain
4 me

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:05 am

I doubt whether the prerelease will make much difference to most people as it seems only 2 people intend to attend and therefore by your definition only 2 people will be able to vote.

All of the new cards will be based on both the new rules and also the new terminology and it will be virtually impossible to adopt the new cards without adopting both the new rules and the new terminolgy. The alternative is to ban all of the new cards and live in the "dark ages". (not a realistic proposal!)

As I see it, the rule changes are not dramatic and are designed to be intuitive (make sense) to new players. This is not a bad thing and will reduce confusing and unnecessary complexity. The changes to the rules are quite well defined.

As for the teminology, it doesn't really matter. The old players will know what they are talking about, any new players will be a bit confused by terminology of the older cards, just as we are now.

I'd say we will have to adapt and play by the new Rules especially anyone that intends to attend pre-releases in the future!

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:17 am

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Are you able to tell which way i voted, surely im not the only one that voted in favor.
Maybe I made an error?

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:27 am

You are the only one who has voted yes so far.

I haven't voted, and Jono, Max, and Andy have all voted Hell no.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:31 pm

too many words

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:43 pm

I've read through the new rules carefully, and it actually appears that the current way we play are the new rules basically, as we never respond to damage on, and usually use combat tricks before then, so the only person who the new rules might affect would be Kevin, and possibly Max.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:13 am

really?
someone would need to explain the new ones to me first
but in that case
i might be inclined to use the new rules

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:11 am

They're pretty much the same as the old ones, they just cut a couple of sneaky tricks that people like Kevin could do.

Basically, if we play like we normally do, we'll be doing most of the new rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:08 am

damn it i've done plenty of things in response to damage on, and when damage is on and before it resolves grrrrrrr. this out of wack. i'd be happy just to ban everything new. or maybe we keep the new cards separate from the others and only use them in games against other new cards. instead of having to mix the 2. i'm sure Mishra would be unhappy to see artifacts on his ''battle field'' -.-
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:12 am

the pre-release is this Saturday right?? i need to know what times it is, and it's $55 for the morning right?
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:24 am

Hi All

As most of you know, a new Magic the Gathering set is about
to be released.
To celebrate this and to give you a chance to get your hands
on some of the
new cards before they go on sale, Heroes for Sale is holding
a Prerelease
Tournament this Saturday the 11th of July.

The tournament will be held at the Wesley Broadway Methodist
Church hall
(where we have held these events before). I've attached a
map to help you
find the place.

The doors will be opening at 8:45am and the tournament will
start at 9:15am.
Please be there on time :-)

The cost will be $55 per player. For your $55 you will
receive 6 M10 Booster packs to build your deck with. You
will also be getting a commemorative foil rare and winning
at least one more Booster as prize.

We will be playing a sealed deck format which means each
player will build a
40 card minimum deck out of the cards he or she opens from
the booster packs
along with basic land.

As many of you know, the release of M10 also coincides with
some rules changes. The link below has a nice outline of
the rules changes, there will also be some extra information
on the day.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/42a

If time permits, we will run a Draft in the afternoon. This
will start no
earlier than 1:30pm and the cost will be $25 per player.


These events are always a lot of fun so I hope to see you
all there :-)

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Michael
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:25 am

You can still do things before damage is on, the only change is that now you can't do things after the damage is on but before everything dies.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:20 am

What!? I live and feed of "damage-on, I'll kill your guy bwmahaahahaha"

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:30 am

...and for people lik me that means?

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:35 am

It won't affect any of the cards you're playing the way you play them.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:58 am

hmmmmmm that is alittle anoying though, i do like to do things after first strike damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:36 am

It means that you can react to damage, eg. if your guy mysteriously disappears when attackers and blockers have been declared, then it can still deal combat damage or something to that effect.

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:50 am

Well, now that the prerelease is over I've recreated the poll in case anyone has changed their mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:06 am

None of the cards are actually unplayable with the old rules William...

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PostSubject: Re: Rule Change Poll   Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:27 am

...so can someone explain the rules?

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